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Fail, thieves + Wolves on snow (fresh PHOTOS)

Journal Entry: Tue Jan 15, 2013, 3:21 PM


Hi!

At first, kiriban 955 555 is VERY close!

At second, photo trip to ZOO Bratislava was a fail. I love visiting ZOOs in winter, they are usually calm, animals are more active and are more curious about you. ZOO Bratislava was nicely covered with snow, but ALL the animals were hidden, I have never seen such an empty ZOO :O_o: the only animals I could photograph were wolves (but in totally photographer unfriendly enclosure) and red pandas. I predicted big cats would be closed in indoor enclosures, but I forgot those exhibits have only natural light which comes through roof windows. But nobody bothered to remove the snow from the roof, so light could not get inside and the indoor cat enclosures were SO dark that one had troubles to even spot the cats there :XD: it was absolutely impossible to take a photo. And finally, I got stuck in Bratislava, freezing in wet shoes and jeans for more than 60 minutes without moving, so I wonder if I get some illness :XD:


At third, I failed in NAT GEO contest :XD: thank you very much for the votes, you got my shot of amazing wolf Lobo into TOP 20. TOP 10 was chosen by experts and all the people got some wonderful prize - but the experst did not include my photo which ended in the last 10 together with masterpieces like zoo.national-geographic.cz/pho… zoo.national-geographic.cz/pho… zoo.national-geographic.cz/pho… :XD: I can not pretend I am not a bit sad about it :XD:
But my friends Allerlei and amrodel got 7th and 6th place, winning a one year ticket to ZOO Prague: congrats, girls! :hug: I am jealous and at the same time, I think you should get much better place :( :( I do not understand the experts, Amrodel's professional photo (zoo.national-geographic.cz/pho…) got worse position than this badly photoshopped tiger (zoo.national-geographic.cz/pho…) :O_o: hm... ok, girls, once more, congrats :hug:


At fourth, I am really devasteted about my photos being stolen again. Some -------------- took my photos, removed my signature and posted them on facebook. That person already got 400 000 fans. When I complained about usage of my photos, this person posted a status which clamed HER as a victim of haters (haters = me and my friends whose photos ALSO got stolen). That stealing person got so MANY supporting comments from her fans... they encouraged her to not mind us... Do not they understand that they encourage her to steal more? That it is US who feel bad and depressed because our stuff got stolen?

Check journals of Allerlei, amrodel and TVD-Photography to learn more about it, I am too tired and depressed to deal with other theft :( I somehow can not bear it. I have so many troubles right now and this is really getting me down.

I am tired with this, people :( I mean REALLY tired :( I have never wanted to ruin my photos with large watermarks (yes, I know I use three signatures, but I still keep saying those are decent ones!), but I propably have no other chance. Very soon, my photos will the most likely get a huge watermark which would cover remarkable part of the main photo's subject. Please, blame the thieves, not me...



At fifth, we have really really bad family problems with my grandda, we are angry, worried, scared, nervous, moved and sad at the same time :( we would like to help but I am afraid we are considered an oposition, not a helping partner. We get the behavior we do not deserve and we do not know if it is caused by normal granddad's personality (which is very complicated) or if it is caused by some illness. We deal with this situation several hours a day, calling whole the family, doctors, preparing various scenarios... it is very exhausting :(







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:iconopheliamocha:
opheliamocha Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
The photo Cynthia had supposedly removed the watermark and copyright and posted about 2 weeks ago was from this page [link] note the share, share comment below. It is the lion with tongue out. It is dated May 13, 2012. Another fan looked further and found it here dated October 22nd, 2011. It is ridiculous to even suggest Cynthia took the photo removed all of Woxy's information and posted almost 2 years later. Neither photo had any identifying information on it. This is complete stupidity to even suggest she did it. Not to mention if you do a search that photo appears hundreds of times with no identifying information. The slander and threats are complete stupidity. She runs an animal page not a page to take credit for other photographers photos she makes it very clear in her about section that NONE of the photos are hers. Yet Woxys and her crew still want to keep the drama going and still want Cynthia who by the way isn't even online for more than a few minutes at a time in the last month other than shortly after her release from ICU. To my knowledge she isn't even aware the devious photo altering Cynthia still exists. This is nonsense and anyone who views the above pages will know it. Stop the drama Woxy and find another page to make accusations about. Woxy images appear all over check out Pinterest.
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windfalcon Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
"Yet Woxys and her crew still want to keep the drama going..."

...who is the one who keeps returning to this page to throw out accusations? All Woxys wants is for her photographs to NOT be posted on that Facebook page without her permission. She hasn't done anything aside from request the photos be taken down, which they have been. YOU are rekindling the drama. Leave her alone.
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opheliamocha Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
Original and screen shot message that was posted to page and apparently screen shot and documented. You tell me how on earth Cynthia was to know who the hell Tereza Hola was could have been another idiot trying to take credit for a photo. How was she to know this person was Woxy??? Now YOU windfalcon and the Woxy crew can back off over such petty insanity and cease and desist your slandering of Cynthia and her page. Woxy claimed she was having the page shut down well still seems to be going well as far as I can see approx 3,000 - 5,000 new likes a day. Very few unlikes.
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Tereza Holá (15. leden 2013): I have already contacted my lawyer. And of course, I reported this to Facebook, asking the company to block your account.

Adresa URL obsahu: [link]

8:42pm
Tereza Holá

I do not know who you are, but I have already contacted facebook, so let's see what happen, dear.

and NEVER. I mean NEVER use my art again. I will report every single image. And yeah, as an artist, I DO have my lawyer, so well.... you can expect a lot of fun if you keep reposting my art

8:47pm
Cynthia Davies

I have no idea what your art is or even who you are.
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opheliamocha Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
strange I see no comments or accusations from me they all seem to be Woxy's drama crew and her constant posts. Cynthia is long removed from this, hasn't a clue or a care what Woxy thinks or does. Her people love her on all her pages. Woxy's little drama means nothing to her. However I understand there is still a pending investigation once Cynthia regains her health. The request to remove the photo was from a Tereza Hola not a Woxy have you any idea on a page of that size how many people wish to take credit for others work. How on earth was Cynthia to know who the heck Tereza Hola and her threats of legal action blah, blah was? The photo of the lion was removed within 1/2 hour that is documented and can be proven once it was established Tereza Hola and Woxy were the same person. I see no comments from Cynthia's friends but, I sure see many continuing to slander Cynthia. When there are hundreds and hundreds of pages with Woxy photos on them. I would suggest you leave Cynthia and her page alone. Find another you can whine about.
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windfalcon Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
I was thinking about my response to you and realized that I went a little too far. In a way, I'm prodding the drama along by yelling at and accusing you. Whatever your story may be, it's not really any of my business - this issue is between you and Woxys.

I responded to you in such a heated fashion because I feel very strongly about artists and photographers being able to protect their art and photography, and in the importance of copyright. I believe that when you found the image, with the copyright text already removed, you didn't post it maliciously to steal. However, with this unfortunate event, something positive has come out of it, and that's a bit more knowledge on copyright. With a Facebook page as large as you have, this is very important knowledge to have, and I notice that you have been careful to include credit with the photos you have posted since the incident.

I will not respond with any more arguing or accusations, as that's not the way I try to behave in real life, and it's unacceptable for me to act that way online. I hope both parties here can find a peaceful way to settle this situation. :)
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windfalcon Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
This has gone on far enough, Cynthia. There are two things you are doing that are completely unacceptable and harming your credibility (what little you have).

The first is replying using two different usernames and pretending they belong to two different people: ~sindrella8 and ~opheliamocha are both you. You use the same writing style with run-on sentences and no paragraphs, and you spell Woxys incorrectly on both. Stop doing this. Just use your Sindrella8 account, identify yourself as Cynthia, and stop pretending you're different people. No one is being fooled, everyone knows, and you can deny it until the sun goes down and the only person who will listen to your lie is you.

The second is this bit about being in the hospital. If you ARE in fact in the hospital, then I wish you a speedy and full recovery, and I am truly sorry about your illness. But even if this is the case do NOT keep pretending that you're too sick to use a computer and that your friends are the ones commenting 'on your behalf'. If you're well enough to use a computer, just say so.

And if you AREN'T actually in the hospital, then know this - there's no way for any of us to know for certain if you're in the hospital or not, but only you are the one who knows the truth about that...and let it sink in for a moment how shameful it would be to lie to people like that. It would be insulting to everyone who has a friend or family member who is in the hospital, to everyone worried about a loved one's well-being. Something like that is not a weapon for your argument's arsenal, and constantly using it in your posts is suspicious and just crumbles your credibility.

Please stop the lying. No one is harassing you. YOU are the one who keeps coming HERE to harass Woxys. I see no comments on the Facebook page as proof of anyone harassing you. Where is the harassment you claim is happening?
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buggieskinner5 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
Can't find the specific comment I left but here is my reply to the reply I got...I am an artist but I'm smart enough to keep my art off the internet. Sell it, publish it get a copyright. If you put it on the internet it will be stolen. If you don't want your art stolen don't post it on sites until after you have registered it as yours. That's just common sense people. And to hope someone steals my vehicle? Really? Your all pathetic. Let's see someone sharing a picture that cost nothing to put on the internet vs hoping some dies and that someone else's 35, 000$ vehicle gets stolen....not really a fitting crime for the punishment of speaking ones mind. You are all children. One day you will grow up...for your sakes I hope it's soon. Keep your shit off the internet and it won't get stolen.
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windfalcon Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
You really, really have no concept of intellectual property. Many artists and photographers make a living on their art. When those images get passed around with their watermark removed, it takes away the ability for the artist/photographer to be recognized for their hard work, and takes potential sales away from them. I wish I could just create art for the general public to enjoy and distribute, but artists have bills to pay just like everyone else. We're not being greedy or selfish by asking for simple credit to be given for our work.

This wouldn't even have been so much of a problem if Woxys' contact information had been included with the image. It's not hard - if you don't know the owner of the image and can't get credit, don't post the image. Sure, you may have to give up on posting a photo or a painting you really like, but it doesn't belong to you. There are also tools online such as Google Image Search and Tineye where you can drag an image and find other places online where it is posted. 9 times out of 10, it will point you to the original artist.

The car example was used to give you an idea of what it's like to have something that belongs to you taken away. Yes, a car has a tangible value, but art has a value too. As Woxys said, she was able to buy a new camera through her print sales. For HER work, for photographs SHE took. Just because it's on the internet doesn't give people the right to steal it, in the same way that just because your car is parked on a public street doesn't give people the right to steal it. Just because something has a lower tangible 'worth' doesn't mean it's acceptable to steal it. Do you think it's okay to steal a pack of gum from a store, even if it's worth less than a dollar? Stealing is stealing, and I doubt the police officer who comes to arrest you would accept "but it was barely worth anything!" as an excuse.
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woxys Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
haha, she TOTALLY failed :D FB removed ALL the stolen stuff, so we won and that illegally posting site COMPLETELY failed! Victory for me and my friends! :D :D :D

and speak about your art, because... you know, you can ONLY speak about it :rofl: :rofl:

we WOOON :D

P.S.: I have sold so much prints throug dA that I could buy new camera in 2010, so I will definitely keep my stuff on the web and I will simply report anybody who steals my art :D because I obviously win with this tactic! :D
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Howling-Crew Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013
i really love your photos your so good at taking pictures and im happy that facebook took the pictures off
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013
thank you :hug:
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sindrella8 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
Now continue your drama Wroxy because I am ready for you with lots of back up to prove exactly what a liar you are.
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LaPetiteBohemienne Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Professional General Artist
You are the one keeping the drama alive. Your page posted a wolf photo with a condescending text openly attacking woxys. You keep rallying your fans by posting outright attacks, misinformation and manipulative techniques just to keep them attacking woxys.

In all your posts, you've been either threatening or emotionally blackmailing woxys and you tend to get aggressive while defending the wrong you had done.

Either admit to the copyright infringement, post a public apology to woxys for all the misinformation you had posted and for once act like a reasonable mature person, or stop making a bigger fool out of yourself by posting more of your threats and manipulations that also happen to deny a lot of things you had stated about yourself previously.

~Monika~
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woxys Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
I am happy to inform you that Facebook removed those illegally posted photos :nod: it is great that justice won! :clap:
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Sweet-Temptations21 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
I am so sorry. I had no idea those photos weren't legally shared. I'm on their page and I see the photos shared a lot so I hit share. Had I known they hadn't had permission to share I wouldn't have shared them. I have decided no matter how much I like the photo if I don't see the author credit it would be best not to click the share button. I do not support copyright infringement. I wish you the best with your art and with this issue. I hope they can be mature enough to apologize for incorrectly posting your work and to agree not to do it in the future.
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TVD-Photography Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013  Professional Photographer
Oh my thank you for seeing this for what it is. I know some people have stopped watching the page because of all the drama that has been brought up over and over again including this latest slandering and defamation and bullying that has come up.

I don't think this is going to be resolved in a mature manner, she won't apologise otherwise it would have been done sooner. It just keeps going on and on and now because I stood up for her and gave my opinion of what was going on and what this admin was diong I'm getting crap from her now saying I'm a bully and I want to beat women. She's now slandering me too :(
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woxys Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
thank you very much. Unfortunately, she sent all 500 000 fans of her page to stalk and troll me :)
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:iconsweet-temptations21:
Sweet-Temptations21 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
Yeah, I saw when the link to your site was posted; that is how I found you actually. You have very nice photographs btw :). Hang in there.
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woxys Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
thank you, REALLY! In all those hateful comments, you definitely made me smile :D
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sindrella8 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
One of the people followed further from the year old photo you have constantly been slandering me with and found it on a page dated october 2011 you are given all the proof everything is documented yet you still slander send your thugs after me, threaten legal action and make the statment you will close down my page. [link] explain this one Wroxy did I remove copyright, watermark and claim this as my own in october 2011 too. I didnt even open my page to the public until March 13 2012. You pursue your legal battle against me Woxys because, you slander, accusations and the threats of physical beatings, stalking and physical harm Im afraid trumps anything hou can do. If for any reason my page does disappear it will be very obvious who was responsible you made that public knowledge you wanted it shut down and trust me the 500,000 is nothing to the wrath people will feel about you then. Also got a message today that you threatened an Animalia page as well. There will be many more that will come to light in the coming weeks.
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LaPetiteBohemienne Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Professional General Artist
Dear sindrella8/Cynthia/Brian, please, stop harassing woxys and artists who only protect their rights. If you don't understand that an artist has a right to take legal steps against people who infringe on their copyright, it's your problem. Woxys asked you to remove her photos and even if you didn't know her name, you should have done so. It's not woxys' problem that you have used so many different photos without the artists' permission that you weren't able to tell which photos were hers. This fact actually speaks in woxys' favour.

Taking LEGAL steps against copyright infringement is perfectly LEGAL and it's no threat. If pages infringe on artists' copyrights, they can (and should) be closed down, and it's only their fault because by doing so, they also violate Facebook's ToU. Every time you upload a photo that you don't hold all the rights to, you are violating FB's ToU and artists' copyrights. You are the one in the wrong. It doesn't matter what cause you're violating these for, it's still violation and legal steps can be taken against you. The fact that you apparently can't understand this is not woxys' problem.

From everything I've read so far, YOU are the one who keeps slandering, harassing and attacking. No one sent "their thugs" after you and woxys herself never threatened you with physical beating, stalking or even murder (as you have stated several times), she never approved of such posts, either although one of your "spies" tried multiple times to make her agree with: "We all know how happy you would be if she (Cynthia) died." All your misinformation and manipulations are completely and utterly disgusting and what's even worse for you, prosecutable.

I have witnessed myself how your page treats people who try to explain the truth about copyright to you, or who send you credit information regarding some photos. Your page's admin first accused me publicly of not having sent any such message, then kept on attacking me repeatedly and publicly for things I never said or did even after I had proved them wrong by resending the message to them, all of that just to make your fans attack me as someone who hates the page and animals. Yes, a person who'd been a fan of your page must certainly be an enemy to animals, "Godless, cruel and animal abusive". I got labelled like this just because your page first deleted my posts and then shamelessly LIED about what I said. I'm utterly disgusted by your attitude and your (mis)handling of this whole situation. Your page keeps twisting the truth and that's the only reason why your 500K fans are so angry with woxys.

If your page gets closed down, it will be your fault and your fault only. You infringe on copyrights, you attack people who try to help you with finding credit info for you for no reason whatsoever, you encourage your fans attacking artists and their defenders, you harass, attack and slander - briefly, you are the one in the wrong (and your 500K fans that you so like mentioning can never change that fact).

~Monika~
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sindrella8 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
How do you explain your condoning of stalking threatening and threats of beatings of a woman over a photo that was not even found on your page and then insist that I removed copyright and watermark on a photo that was all over the web without any of that information for almost a year maybe longer. Explain these things wroxy and wonder why 500,000 people may be upset there is a minimum 300,000 more that could become aware as well.
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sindrella8 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
no woxy i made them aware of the absolute lies and slander and had the documentation to back it up. You and your page have been harassing threatening and slandering me for weeks. How do you explain how you asked me nicely to remove a wroxy photo using the name Tereza that I did not have a clue who that person was. Then you lie and say you never threatned with a lawyer and legal action. I have not only documentation of all the lies i have screen shots as well. Please explain these lies and then accuse me of sending 500,000 people to your page.
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sindrella8 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
no sweet temptation you will be posting nothing from Wild for Wildlife and nature because, you are perm banned.
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:iconailions-ephesians:
Ailions-Ephesians Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:iconsweet-temptations21: "I am catching up on the comments here so I have not read them all. I will not support copyright infringement. Even if it is unintentional it is still hurtful to the artist so if I don't see the credit listed I won't be able to share it. I understand your position of not knowing, but that doesn't make it right. Just because somebody else stole it doesn't mean you should continue to share it. That's how I feel on it even if nobody else does."
:iconsindrella8: "no sweet temptation you will be posting nothing from Wild for Wildlife and nature because, you are perm banned."

Okay I've been watching this whole issue with you and your wildlife account go on for a while. I've looked at comments from both sides and looked at the pages themselves. And from what I just read with how you responded to :iconsweet-temptations21: proves to me that you understand exactly what you were doing and were just hoping you wouldn't have to make up for it. I've seen responses from you to people saying how you don't support art theft and always credit artists or ask people to find the original artist so you can credit them and yet you took a photo that obviously wasn't posted by the original author and seemed to not even think twice about posting it on your site without looking for the author or even asking the person who posted it if they were the original author! And when the original author comes to claim their rightful credit suddenly all these different excuses as to why you posted the photo began floating around that everyone said stemmed from you. That doesn't just happen magically. This above response just proves that you don't know how to handle yourself when you make such an obvious and avoidable mistake. Saying someones banned from your precious site because they don't want to support the spreading of photos who's author didn't get proper credit!? What happened to your beginning argument about being against art theft? If I we're in your place I'd remove all uncredited photos, apologize to every artist you stressed and sent your fans to attack blindly. Whether it was your intention for them to attack or not doesn't matter, they're your fans and your responsibility as the ADMIN! You need to grow the fuck up and let all this just die! Be the polite one and just stop responding to your supposed "death threats" and "hate comments" and just get on with your life.
If the responses above aren't correct then sorry for the mistake but you still should have known better considering what you claimed you believe in when this whole thing started.
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LaPetiteBohemienne Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Professional General Artist
Ailions-Ephesians, I could hug you right now. You expressed exactly what I thought (and posted on their page, though true to their words, they ban anyone and everyone who gives correct information regarding copyright) when I saw all this happening on "that page". Whether they were the first to use a stolen image or not is irrelevant to the law. The fact is, they did use it without credit or permission. Here's what I posted that got deleted from the page after they started their "fans" attacking a friend of mine for giving them the information of two entirely different uncredited photos - which she easily found within 5 minutes, btw: "Calling someone a troll and a complainer who actually went to the trouble to HELP is rude and uncalled for. Don't blame the messenger just because you don't like the message. If this page is getting photos online, they're going to run into trouble. Period. EVERY photo posted online is copyrighted whether it's marked or not. Once you come across a photographer that has registered their copyright, you have to pay not only damages, but also all legal fees that can run into thousands of dollars (unregistered copyrights and you'll still be liable for damages without the additional legal fees. But you're liable either way). Can you afford that? To look at it another way, just because every other car on the road is speeding and the police pull YOU over, you can't say "I didn't know the speed limit" or "Everyone else was speeding" to get out of the ticket. If you're going to be responsible for a page like this, learn the copyright laws, educate yourself and be informed when you're the one in the wrong. Yes, M. is a good friend of mine. She did you a favor by actually finding the owner of some of the photos that you didn't do the due diligence to locate yourself. The next person might not be so kind and will just hit you with a lawsuit."

Blaming the photographers who own the copyright to their OWN photos and telling them *they* should be more responsible with adding their watermark (Woxy does use a watermark and cannot be responsible when someone else removes it) is no different than telling an innocent person accused of a crime that they should be more careful. It's not up to the defense to "prove" they didn't do anything wrong. It's up to the prosecutor to "prove" they did. It should be up to the people posting ANYTHING that doesn't belong to them to post ONLY what they know they have permission to post. It's really that simple. If you don't own it or don't have permission to post it, then DON'T POST IT. That's in the terms of every social media site out there, including Facebook. Whether others do or not, doesn't matter. "sindrella/Cynthia/Brian" is responsible for what they put online - no one else is responsible for their actions.
~Kat
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Ailions-Ephesians Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yep exactly. She's really just trying to play innocent when she figured out what she was doing was a bad idea. Had she just done as she was asked and give credit or have never posted the uncredited photos this wouldn't have gotten so blown out of proportion. People need to quit whining that they don't know things when every site they go onto has these things specifically stated in the rules of the site.
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Sweet-Temptations21 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
No ~sindrella8 I wouldn't post anything from your page now anyway because your reaction gives me reason to think *woxys is telling more truth than fiction. I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't know, but given the nature of your response I think you very much did know what you did was wrong. I can't respect a site like that. You diminish what good you claim you are doing for animals with what you are doing here on this page.
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sindrella8 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
did you read at all where that photo came from Sweet Temptations. It did not come from this woxy page as claimed it came from [link] lion with tongue out information removed copyright prior to May 2012. I stole nothing from this page the facts stated by this wroxy crew are lies and I can prove them lies just as woxy and TV claim I was never threatened. Read the threads here or I can send you screen shots and documentation.
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Sweet-Temptations21 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
I am catching up on the comments here so I have not read them all. I will not support copyright infringement. Even if it is unintentional it is still hurtful to the artist so if I don't see the credit listed I won't be able to share it. I understand your position of not knowing, but that doesn't make it right. Just because somebody else stole it doesn't mean you should continue to share it. That's how I feel on it even if nobody else does.
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LaPetiteBohemienne Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Professional General Artist
Sweet-Temptations21 "Just because somebody else stole it doesn't mean you should continue to share it." That's not just a "feeling", it's the law. It's in the legal terms of Facebook, Pinterest, Tumblr, and every media sharing site. "If you don't own it or don't have permission to share it, don't post it." Paraphrasing because they're all written differently, but they all have it. Where she got the photo is irrelevant. The fact that she didn't have permission to use it is what makes her actions wrong. Thank you and others here for supporting copyright owners. It's just the right thing to do.
~Kat
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woxys Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
thank you very much for such attitude!
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ermergerdkerler Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
Just so you know woxy. Just today, Cynthia and Brian decide to post a status saying that you physically threatened Cynthia in this post. I see no threat, only that Brian and Cynthia are lying scum. She tries to play the innocent, I can't take care of myself, victim and its really annoying. I hope she sees some kind of legal action for this, not only because she is a thief, but because she needs a kick off of her pedestal.
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woxys Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
they can obviously make up EVERYTHING they want, so I do not care ;)
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Sweet-Temptations21 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
You're welcome. I wish people wouldn't do this, but I also wish people wouldn't justify it when they do. I have only seen a few people on that site admit that it's wrong and shouldn't be done. All the others seem to think it's okay. I wonder how they would feel if somebody stole their photos from their Facebook page or anywhere else on line and posted them.I am just sad that I assumed they had done due diligence and had permission or at least got the pictures from a site that had free photos for legal use. I feel badly for clicking share all the times that I did click it. I should have known better and for that I am sorry.
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woxys Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013
I wish people wouldn't do this, but I also wish people wouldn't justify it when they do. I have only seen a few people on that site admit that it's wrong and shouldn't be done. All the others seem to think it's okay. --- this might be worse than illegal reposting itself, it is just so low and sad :/

and no problem, you just did not know! We must blame the person, who illegally reposted it, not those who shared it, hoping to spread nice pics :nod:
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Sweet-Temptations21 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
*photographer credit that is.
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sindrella8 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
too exhausted to not make typos. aLL OF YOUR lies will also be exposed wroxy as well as your threats. You want to continue this somehow I will find the strength and it will continue with you exposed for the deceitful lying cruel person you are. I had no issue whatsoever with crediting any photo in fact i prefer when i can and often ask for help. You still continue to lie that I altered the year old photo that was altered I think May of 2012 even though i only posted within the last two weeks. Im still here and as long as I am still breathing I will fight everyone of you with your slander and lies even if I have to do it in 10 minute incriments.
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sindrella8 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
All of our lies will be exposed as well as our threats woxy Thereza or whoever you are. I thought this was all over until the threats investigation was reinstated when i gained some strength but, obviously not.
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sindrella8 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
Too exhausted at the moment this post makes no sense but the others most certainly do and are fact not a single lie.
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sindrella8 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
Wroxy most definitely has said she is working on shutting the page down I have documented proof of that as well as your saying the same mr desire to abuse women TVD Photography I cannot sit here any longer I am going back to lay down but, i will provide documented proof of that also once i gather some strength hopefully today. I have EVERYTHING documented and it will be exposed totally with screen shot back up if desired.
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TVD-Photography Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013  Professional Photographer
Why don't you gather your strengh and then do something more constructive with it? I imagine you have spent countless hours being hateful and angry. If you are indeed not feeling well like you say I'd not go on the internet for a few days and rest not be here spamming this page saying the same thing oveer and over again and harassing everyone.
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Allerlei Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Ty zasraná píčo hnusná. I hate you so much.
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sindrella8 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
i believe i will recover from all of the issues i am experiencing health wise and when I do trust me this will not be swept under the comment with you TVD Photography. You are a bully, someone who makes threats about women and a liar. All that i have proof of.
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TVD-Photography Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013  Professional Photographer
Slandering and lying about me on here will get you nowhere. People who know me know the truth of it and know I'm not a bully and that I do not make threats against women. You have no proof so please stop spreading lies about me for sticking up for a friend!
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sindrella8 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
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Tereza Holá (15. leden 2013): I have already contacted my lawyer. And of course, I reported this to Facebook, asking the company to block your account.

Adresa URL obsahu: [link]

8:42pm
Tereza Holá

I do not know who you are, but I have already contacted facebook, so let's see what happen, dear.

and NEVER. I mean NEVER use my art again. I will report every single image. And yeah, as an artist, I DO have my lawyer, so well.... you can expect a lot of fun if you keep reposting my art

8:47pm
Cynthia Davies

I have no idea what your art is or even who you are.

8:49pm
Cynthia Davies

The lion photo i have no diea who it belongs to someone said woxy the photo was found here posted Saturday, i posted it yesterday. [link]
This attachment may have been removed or the person who shared it may not have permission to share it with you.

8:51pm
Cynthia Davies

Who am I, I am someone who has devoted my life to wildlife and nature. We have a non profit Sanctuary and Rehabilitation Centre for bears that is in it's 20th year. Our love for wildlife does not end with bears we have a love for all wildlife. hence started the wild for wildlife page. We are good people just trying to make a difference. yes you can close down the page. i will make an explanation in the coming days that you want it closed and have sought legal counsel to close it.

8:52pm
Cynthia Davies

www.bearwithus.org

8:55pm
Cynthia Davies

Please read the ABOUT section of the page. All we ever wanted to do is hopefully make a small difference in the lives of animals if that is possible. We are good people. We have over 700,000 friends on all our pages, groups and private profiles we will spread the word about not ever sharing your work and your desire to shut down the animal pages. I hope that helps.

8:58pm
Tereza Holá

I do not care about your reasons. I am the ONLY owner of the copyright. NOBODY on this Earth is allowed to use my work. Nobody is allowed to repost it. I claim this under every of my photos. Immediately remove every single my work and work of my friends from the facebook gallery. Facebook staff has been already contacted. That is all I can say to you. Bye.

9:03pm
Cynthia Davies

i don't even know who you are nor do I know what work belongs to deviant art. I have been there maybe four times in my life because, someone has sent me there. I have deviant art people that ask me to share their work. Many world renown photographers link to wild for wildlife and are my personal friends. I showed you were i found the lion photo it has no reference to deviant art or who the photographer is. check out pinterest i sometimes find photos there and rarely ever is a photographer stated. i have promoted many photographers by posting their art and can give you their names if you want to ask them how credible i am. I have built many of their pages just by posting their photographs, i would have been happy to do the same for you had I know which photos are yours whoever you are.

9:04pm
Cynthia Davies

Ask your friend [link] about Mike and i and Bear With Us. He will tell you our only interest is the animals. he is a personal friend of yours.
Ondřej Mejzlík
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9:05pm
Tereza Holá

I do not care about your reasons - just. remove. my. photos.

9:05pm
Cynthia Davies

i do not know what your photos are?????????? If i knew i would have credited.

9:06pm
Tereza Holá

it is SO easy. Do that, because you have no right to post MY work. I do not care that you do not know me XD XD XD you are not allowed to repost my work. DO IT NOW, remove my work.

ok, that is a problem. You used so many photos which belong to completely different persons. Your problem. Remove my work. I claim it.

I do not care about credit. Nobody is allowed to REPOST my work. What exactly is that difficult about understanding this? XD

9:10pm
Cynthia Davies

I have notified my 500,000 likes on the Wild for Wildlife page of your intent to close down the page, I will now notify the other pages and groups. I can't remove what I don't know.

9:10pm
Tereza Holá

cool, this can be considered a cyber bullying

9:11pm
Cynthia Davies

bullying? I am only repeating what you told me. You are cyber bullying.

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Tereza Holá (15. leden 2013): I have already contacted my lawyer. And of course, I reported this to Facebook, asking the company to block your account.
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woxys Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
and Facebook removed all those photos, which is pretty nice :nod:
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sindrella8 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
I have been informed this is still ongoing and the threats are continuing. I can't fight this battle right now I have other issues that take priority but, TVD Photography according to my documents you are one that threatened me. slandered me and now you are lying again. I most certainly was not asked nicely this is the conversation I also have screen shot. I had no idea this Tereza Hola and this woxy were the same person. You most definitely are lying and I want that documented with all the rest. I am ill right now and want no more of this but, i won't let you lie continually about me. Especially after your threats of violence against me. Enough for me right now, i can't sit here to argue, will lay down but if you continue to lie I will have someone else deal with you. You have been reported for your physical threats against me. Now you continue with more lies. READ what message was sent to me.
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TVD-Photography Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013  Professional Photographer
Hi Cynthia,

I was actually refering to another friend who I'm not naming as I don't want her to be a target of your attacks either but she did ask nicely. She said that you could keep her photo but she would like a credit put underneath and you replied and yes you did it but there was no need for the rude comment you left her afterwards, that one I didn't keep because that was the beginning of it and I think those comments are deleted now because the photo was removed. That is what I saw and this is what I was basing your rudeness on as well as just some of the comments you gave random people for voicing a different opinion in a nice way.

As for threatening you if I was going to do that I would have done it directly to you like I'm typing this message now. And can you please explain how I'm slandering you? To me slander is purposefully lying about a situation or about a person and then mentioning the name or a link to that person which is what you have done again recently. That's defamation right there.

You said "READ what message was sent to me." are you talking about the one above? I just want to confirm that with you.
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Dragonwych Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
Voice of reason. I looked up the "stolen" photo. It was posted, with no watermark or other information, in a tumblr blog in October of 2011. Over a year later, the person you claim stole your photo found it on that blog, with no watermark or other information, and posted it on FB because it is a beautiful wildlife photo. Instead of accepting the obvious compliment and supplying the FB poster with the requested information, so you could be publicly credited for your lovely photograph, thereby enjoying the appreciation of thousands of FB fans, you oddly chose to accuse the poster of stealing the photograph and deleting whatever information it may have contained. Why are you not assaulting the tumblr blogger? That's where the photo was found. How could anyone know it was yours? Does it not occur to you that we would have wanted to know it was yours, so we could seek out more of your wonderful work? All you had to do was step up and take credit. Instead, now thousands of wildlife fans think you and your friends must be nuts. Is that really what you want? If you care about your work, step up. Apologize for your groundless accusations, take credit for your talent, and call off your friends. Then everybody wins. Until then, you and you alone lose. You want your efforts to be recognized and appreciated, I'm sure. So do the right thing. [link]
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