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Do YOU want to sell prints? One mistake you make.

Journal Entry: Sun Jan 15, 2012, 7:51 PM


Hi people!

Today it is a short journal without photos, sorry.
I would like to give you one important advice, so I hope it can be still useful ;)

I see many people try to sell prints here. And they are often sad they have not sold anything yet.
But at the same time I see they do the same mistake. So:



HOW PEOPLE TRY TO SELL THEIR WORK AS A PRINT?

1. you took a photo (drew a picture). It is nice, so you want to post it as a deviation.
2. you edit it. Making it sharper, more colourful, adding contrast, CHANGING a size to some 850x600px, for example.
3. you post it as a deviation.
4. you look at your deviation and think "hm, it looks pretty cool! Maybe somebody can buy it. I will allow it as a print."
5. you click at "submit as a print" and in "print submission" option you just scroll down and click at "SUBMIT AS A PRINT".
6. now deviation in your gallery has that cool "buy this print" green button and you are excited about somebody buying it.
7. you are disappointed that nobody bought it.


Where did you make a mistake?


It is simple.

When you decide to sell a print, you CAN NOT just submit your CURRENT deviation as a print. It is usually TOO small and it usually has your signature on it.
Even if somebody ordered it, dA would NOT allow him/her to buy it, because such deviation would not go through quality control.


So, here is the CORRECT way how to sell it:



HOW TO SUBMITT A PRINT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO BUY IT?

1. you take a photo (drew a picture). You like the result and you think you can post it and maybe also sell it.
2. you edit it. Making it sharper, colourful and so. BUT you have TWO versions of that photo (picture). Not only you prepare that fe. 800x600px size for deviation posting. You keep also a version, which is much larger, for example 4000x3000 px with bigger resolution. This BIGGER version SHOULD NOT have any frame or any signature on it!!!!
3. you post your deviation (800x600px)
4. you click at "submit as a print"
5. choose the right size of a print.
6. then DOUBLE click on those big pink fields, which says "to make this size available, please click here to upload a higher resolution image"
7. in next option, click at UPLOAD LARGER IMAGE
8. Upload that BIGGER version or your photo (image), that one without frames and signature.
9. click at OK. Now you see how the print would look - if you see some strange white borders, you chose a bad size of the print, try to find more fitting. Or you can choose to crop your image a bit (be careful about cutting important parts)
10. do not forget about choosing more products - you can sell also calendars, mugs, mousepads and such things. For each product, you need to upload that bigger version of the image.
11. Finally set your price and SUBMIT IT as a print.

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12. if you still want to keep your signature on a print you sell, be careful about NOT cropping it during the submition process so half of the signature is on the product and half if cut off. That's why many of my prints were rejected in the past :)




You can see the example here:

My deviation in gallery (with signature and frames): woxys.deviantart.com/art/White… - the size of the photo is 854x571 px.
And product I sell (no frame, no signature, MUCH bigger size, which allows me to sell even BIG and expensive prints): www.deviantart.com/print/23373… - the size of the photo I sell is 4752x3168 px! Do you see the difference?



Simply: the file for product you sell must be DIFFERENT from the file, which is a deviation in your gallery. There must be bigger size, resolution and no signatures and frames on a file you want to sell! ;)


And one big advice: DO NOT say anything like ,,If you like it, tell me and I will make it available as a print". If you think people may like some photo (picture) enough to buy it, SUBMIT it as a print AUTOMATICALLY. People are lazy and this is not a site, where buying prints is the most important thing, so make it as user-friendly as possible. If people see you do not offer some work as a print, they will probably find some available product instead of asking you to make it available ;)


I hope it helped ;)
It took me few years to understand it - during this time, quite many of my deviations were refused by dA, although somebody wanted to buy them. As I did not go through those steps and I tried to sell signed small deviations, the product did not go through the quality control.
After I got how to sell prints, I really sold quite nice number of them. So I would like to help you a bit :)

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:icongillhjuanita:
gillhjuanita Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2014  Student Photographer
I have mine available in large sizes, but how do you market them? Help people see them?
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:iconsinnedbisk:
sinnedbisk Featured By Owner May 31, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Is it ok if i submit my larger sizes images as both deviations and print right away?? Or is it imperative that my deviations should always be smaller size and not the larger ones??
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2014
no idea, I think the print size is what matters :D
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:iconsinnedbisk:
sinnedbisk Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
thanks for your reply!
cause my deviations are the same size as my prints, is that ok??
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2014
if the print size is ok, then I think it should be ok :D
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:iconsinnedbisk:
sinnedbisk Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
heheh thank God.. I was worried I gonna have to pull out all my deviation and submit smaller images.. :P
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:iconannalena250199:
AnnaLena250199 Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have a question, I always get error messages from devaintart, when I want to do the step: 8. Upload that BIGGER version or your photo (image), that one without frames and signature.

The message is:

Sorry, we can not currently process the file you submitted. Possible causes are:

* deviantART is experiencing high load and your request was interrupted or timed out..

* There was a server error while processing the request.

* The setting of your browser privacy controls or firewall may be blocking the response from deviantART.

* You have installed a browser extension, antivirus or adblocker that interferes with the upload script.

Please, try again.

What could I do against it? ö_ö
Btw, I am a noob at pc's :XD:
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:iconannalena250199:
AnnaLena250199 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, nevermind :XD:
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:iconelireads:
Elireads Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013  Student Photographer
i have a question... are you the one producing the prints and selling them or is it the DA printing and shipping for you?
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013
it is dA producing them :nod:
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:iconflydagger:
Flydagger Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
So DA gonna print such as mouse pad, canvas etc. and shipping too? :confuzzled: 
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2013
yes :nod:
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:iconflydagger:
Flydagger Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks ;) it's more clear to me now Hug 
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:iconmili3:
Mili3 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013  Student Digital Artist
You, sir, deserve a Nobel price for this
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013
:giggle:
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:iconlyrak:
Lyrak Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I upload high-res for prints and STILL don;t sell anything. XD But for my photos I may be pulling all prints from DA once I can afford a pro SmugMug membership, and sell through them instead, just using DA prints for art.
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:iconrawliett:
Rawliett Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I tried it, but when I submitted the deviation I never got the images with the pink on it :/
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:iconmomochan-1:
momochan-1 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012  Student General Artist
Thanks, this was really helpful!
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:iconlaya-dragonangel:
Laya-DragonAngel Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Professional Artist
Thanks for the help, that's great advice!! :)
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:icontaitai03:
Taitai03 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Student Photographer
Very good advice!
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:iconarchaicdaydream:
archaicDaydream Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
If you do make it a higher resolution, will it look a bit pixelized?
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
in my experience, no :nod: but it probably depends on exact picture :nod:
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:iconarchaicdaydream:
archaicDaydream Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you!
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:iconlunarberry:
LunarBerry Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oooh thanks for the advice :D
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:iconraidoodles:
RaiDoodles Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is very helpful, although I don't draw anything worth submitting as prints. But maybe one day! I guess my question to you is if it's possible to reverse something as a print so it goes back to normal? I think when I first got my account, I accidentally made something a print and it bothers me to this very day. Too bad there isn't a cancel button for it.
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:iconpvalentega:
pvalentega Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Professional Photographer
thanks for that! most of my work is avaliable as prints - most of the work i submit is always about 266 dpi and normally no less then 50cm in any one direction - leads to huge files but I submit these as prints end they work well...
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:iconrunningfreely:
runningfreely Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Hobbyist
OMG, I didn't know that :o Thank you very much for the advice! :hug:
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:iconfluzzyamber:
fluzzyamber Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Professional General Artist
thank you so much for the helpful information! I'll remember that!
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:iconolmountainwoman:
OlMountainWoman Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012   Photographer
I was concerned when some of my models requested prints from me, so I bought a few of my own works to check the quality of the deviant prints, and was very happy, they were beautiful! DeviantArt really does a wonderful job!
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:iconpale-recluse:
Pale-Recluse Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
You can also find more information on what sizes of prints are available for dA printing by doing a google search for "deviantart print sizes." Deviant carries a wide selection of print sizes but not all and it might have some you don't expect.
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AlexPhotograpy Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
pretty nice information.
i havent try it yet.
maybe i should.
are you too lazy to take a look in my gallery and tell me, which shots have the best chances to get bought?
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
not lazy, I am too busy.
but I will have a look!
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:iconalexphotograpy:
AlexPhotograpy Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
thanks for help.
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:iconspiccan:
Spiccan Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Thank you! This is very helpful, not only if you are interested to sell but also to buy. I've often wondered if print I purchase will come out as pixelated a4 or something as deviantations barely go over 1000 pixels.
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:iconsyrrhaal:
Syrrhaal Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Hobbyist
I may upload bigger version for it but never without signature.
I not giving out but can modify the signature on my name instead not my dA reach.

Paranoia or not, but I would never give out of my drawings high resolution without an elegant safe watermark on it still. It is just a feel, there are nicely made and placed signatures around, logos which can be even built in the art as part of it but without it I kinda giving out my own work to be stolen in high resolution even.

I know dA is not really aiming for this, but no any other site I would trust this either. ^^;
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:iconaskdafl:
askdafl Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Interesting and helpful advice! I hadn't really been planning on offering any prints, but I do have a lot of my photos uploaded to their full size, and I had signatures on the original file. I may at least follow the advice of uploading a different file from the full thing. Thank you!
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Gryffgirl Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
Thanks for the advice!
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:iconcharlenequek:
charlenequek Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:dummy: actually I turned one of my art into prints and was puzzled at its appearance then I deleted and resubmitted to realize there was prints option :slow:
I was wondering what all the $ $ were about.
Ahh now I know.
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Sasa-Van-Goth Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Good to see I do it right, but still I haven't sold anything xD
Probably my pics are not good enough ahah! :XD:
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:iconshikariix:
Shikariix Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Student General Artist
If I ever decide to make prints available, I'll use this as a guideline. Thank you! C:
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:iconmakangeni:
makangeni Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012   General Artist
just one thing: if you click on the button "view original" you can see the photo without signature and then, if you are a stealer, you can copy it into your computer and use it on the internet without crediting you.
it's a small version of the image, but I think that it would be still annoying if people use it without your permission :(
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:iconmakangeni:
makangeni Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012   General Artist
thank you very much for this journal! it's very useful! :D
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:iconmorho:
morho Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
tak tomu vravím telepatia :D včera som strávila celý deň tým, že som pripravovala nejaké hrnčeky na predaj :D
pred vianocami ma jeden deviant požiadal o povolenie predaja jednej fotky ako hrnčeka (úprimne ma to šokovalo) a to ma nakoplo, aby som sa v tých printoch viac pohrabala, takto som objavila, že sa dá na každý produkt dať iná verzia fotky (rozlíšenie, rozmery ...) - dovtedy som netušila, že to treba zvlášť pre každý produkt a dokonca som tam objavila aj mustru na kalendáre - konečne som pochopila, ako ich všetci vyrábate :D ... ale spätne sa mi to už nechcelo prerábať ...
nové fotky, ktoré robím, už editujem aj vo verzii bez rámiku a podpisu (i keď ten podpis tam mať chcem - je to aj malá reklama - niekto uvidí u niekoho v kuchyni hrnček, možno sa mu to zapáči a kúpi si tiež a majiteľ si po pol roku nemusí pamätať odkiaľ to má) ...

chcela by som sa spýtať na dve veci - nevieš, či má da nejaký limit na množstvo "spotrebovaného priestoru"? do galérky dávam tak 2 - 3 megové fotky - zmenšovať sa mi to nikdy nechcelo a úprimne - ani ma to nenapadlo - je to nutné?
ako si to myslela s tým orezaným podpisom? toto som nepochopila (moja angličtina je dosť zlá) ... vadí keď je ten podpis useknutý? myslím, keď nie je na printe celý? alebo je problém ak je časť podpisu na objekte (zvierati) a časť mimo?

journal si napísala fakt super :clap:
ešte ma napadla jedna vec (teda ak môžem, nechcem Ti do toho moc kecať) možno by bolo fajn dať tam tento link [link] sú tam rozmery pre jednotlivé produkty spolu s min. rozlíšením
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
nevím, zda je limit, ale jde o to, že když máš fotku třeba o straně 1000 px, tak dA Ti ji zmenší na třeba 800 a SNÍŽÍ TO KVALITU! Takže opravdu doporučuji nahrávat DVĚ verze, já třeba nemám delší stranu nikde rozměrnější než 900px, aby mi to dA nezkreslilo :nod:
Zbytečně si pak ubíráš kvalitu obrázku...

dA má určité rozměry printů - ne vždy do toho ta fotka pasuje. Někdy Ti jí dA kousek "ořízne" - pokud je to třeba kus stromu na fotce, kde je hlavní vlk, nevadí to. Ale pokud máš zrovna v tom kousku napsané Woxys, stane se Ti z toho "Wo" a to už je neprodejné, alespoň u mě to u takového ořezu neprošlo kontrolou...
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:iconmorho:
morho Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
tak toto ma nenapadlo - myslela, som - čím väčšie rozlíšenie tam dám, tým lepšie a ono nie ...
ďakujem za upozornenie, fakt sa s tým budem musieť viac vyhrať ...

printy sa v tom náhľade dajú trošku posúvať/zväčšovať/zmenšovať, takže ak ten nápis alebo rozmer nie je úplne mimo, tak sa to dá v tomto štádiu do určitej miery ovplyvniť ... inak asi potom spraviť nanovo
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
však ano, o tom právě mluvím :nod:
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:iconakatsukinaty:
Akatsukinaty Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
thank u ♥ :DDD
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:iconkaratechick13:
karatechick13 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I hadn't even thought of that! Thanks!!
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:iconviolently-chaotic:
Violently-Chaotic Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I never knew this... but I also have enver posted any of my pictures in the print submission :P I now know if I EVER do that. Thank you :clap:
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SparrowsFlame Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you for sharing! I have several pieces I offer as prints, and in the submission process, I've noticed the pink boxes and have tried playing with them in the past. Thanks for the advice! :w00t:
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